https://www.fbrower.com/byb_error.jpg
Screenshot of errors received.
Tried sending Feedback through BYB, but received similar Warning messages.  Not sure if the same.

PHP version: 8.4.7
Piwigo 16.2(just upgraded).  Was receing same errors in 16.1
BYB version: 2.0.2

Let me know if you need anything else.

Thank you very much.  Just replaced the file and it's working fine, no warning messages.

matthys wrote:

Schneider-Fotografie wrote:

if you block Bingbot in “Blocked User-Agents”, then you don’t need to also allow it via the whitelist — that would conflict.
If you want to allow Bingbot, don’t add it to “Blocked User-Agents”. Instead, just enable Bingbot once under “Allowed bot access settings” (optional: set a daily limit).
If you don’t want Bingbot at all, simply leave it disabled — and usually you don’t need to add it manually to “Blocked User-Agents”.

Just some feedback, and my personal opinion.

If the User-Agent is in the block under Blocked User-Agents in the Bot List Tab, it should not be mentioned in the Whitelist Tab under Allowed bot access settings. This indeed gives a conflict.

And I though it would block suspicious traffic. So normally Bingbot would be allowed, right?
Because I did not add it in the Bot List Tab, I though there is no need to add it to the Whitelist Tab.
But now I understand, if you do not add it to the Whitelist Tab, it's blocked by default?

And what if I do not want to set any Daily Limit? What do I need to do?

Thanks,
Matthijs

Hi Matthijs,

thanks for the clear feedback — I think the misunderstanding comes from what the Whitelist tab is actually used for in BYB.

1) "Blocked User-Agents" vs "Whitelist"
Bot List -> Blocked User-Agents is a manual hard block list.
If you put Bingbot there, it will be blocked, even if you also tick it in the Whitelist.
Recommendation: don’t put the same bot in both places. If it’s blocked, remove it from the Whitelist (or vice versa).

Whitelist -> Allowed bot access is for known bots you want to treat as "allowed bots" (e.g. Googlebot/Bingbot).
This is mainly important if you enabled stricter protection rules like "block traffic with missing referrer/cookies".
Many real bots don’t send cookies, so without whitelisting they can get caught by that rule.

2) "Is Bingbot blocked by default if I don’t whitelist it?"
Not "blocked by default" in general, but it will be treated like normal traffic.
So depending on your settings (especially the cookie/referrer rule), it can be blocked even if it’s a legitimate bot.

If you want Bingbot to crawl normally:
Step 1: Make sure Bingbot is NOT in "Blocked User-Agents".
Step 2: Tick Bingbot in the Whitelist ("Allowed bot access").

3) "What if I don’t want any Daily Limit?"
In BYB, a Daily Limit starts only from 1. There is no "0" option.
If you do not want any Daily Limit, simply leave the checkbox unticked.

Summary:
Case A: Whitelist checked and limit >= 1 -> allowed with a daily quota.
Case B: Whitelist NOT checked -> no daily limit active (bot is treated like normal traffic and may be blocked by strict rules).
Case C: Bot is in "Blocked User-Agents" -> always blocked.

Hope that clears it up!

One question, Matthijs: do you want to block Bingbot, allow it, or are you simply testing the system?

Best regards,
Olaf – BYB | Block You Bots

matthys wrote:

Thanks for explaining but (sorry) still one question.

You write:
Case B: Whitelist NOT checked -> no daily limit active (bot is treated like normal traffic and may be blocked by strict rules).

There is no way to Whitelist a bot with no Daily Limit? Or a very high number?
BTW .. I enter 99999999999999999999 after save it says: 9223372036854775807

And I would be nice that bots mention in the Blocked User-Agents, do not show-up in the Allowed bot access settings. That part is confusing me....

You write "If it’s blocked, remove it from the Whitelist (or vice versa)." but what you mean is; when blocked, do not enable it in the Allowed bot access settings, right?

Hi Matthijs, no worries — here’s the exact logic in BYB:

“Allowed bot access” and “Daily limit” belong together. If you enable a bot there, it always has a limit (even if you set it very high). There is currently no separate “unlimited whitelist” option in that section.

About the number you entered: 9223372036854775807 is the maximum value of a signed 64-bit integer, so anything higher will be saved as that max value.

Regarding the “Blocked User-Agents” vs “Allowed bot access” confusion: those are two independent lists. “Blocked User-Agents” is a hard block list (always blocked). “Allowed bot access” is an allow list (mainly to avoid strict rules like missing cookies/referrer). So if a bot is hard-blocked, you should not enable it in “Allowed bot access”. If you want to allow it, remove it from “Blocked User-Agents” and enable it in “Allowed bot access” instead.

Just a fun note: if Bingbot ever reaches that limit, please contact NASA. We may have discovered faster-than-light crawling. :-)

Best regards,
Olaf – BYB | Block You Bots

Last edited by Schneider-Fotografie (2026-01-02 17:55:46)

After updating to v2.0.3, it's blocking piwigong again.  In log file says missing referr cookies.

EDIT: I whitelisted: PiwigoNG/2.4.2 and it started working again.

Last edited by fbrower1 (2026-01-07 01:39:19)

OHappyDay wrote:

What happened to the plugin? I can't find it any more in the list of available plugins.

Hello OHappyDay

What did you do? Is bot_protection still in the /plugins/ folder?
I had this problem 14 days ago, and it involved all activated plugins from the list. I couldn't activate any of the plugins, only delete them.

Best regards,
Olaf – BYB | Block You Bots

Last edited by Schneider-Fotografie (2026-01-10 21:00:06)

I disabled the plugin because piwigoNG would'nt connect. Afterwards I reactivated it again but it was then completely useless. Clicking on settings to get to the screen of BYB was answered with an error message and I was not able to work with the plugin.
Therefore I uninstalled the plugin and wanted it to reinstall but searching for the plugin did not return any result so I cannot install it any more ....

This was the resulting URL when I tried to access the settings page: https://photos.krtschil.net/admin.php?p … ion-backup


Klaus

Last edited by OHappyDay (2026-01-10 21:08:15)