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#31 2023-09-15 16:10:32
- Zentalquabula
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Re: Heif
plg wrote:
Piwigo 14 will support *.heic files :-) (and also webP)
Sigh… by all means, support HEIC, but the two most important formats are AVIF and WebP.
Almost no browser can render HEIC.
https://caniuse.com/?search=heic
All relevant browsers can render AVIF and WebP.
https://caniuse.com/avif
https://caniuse.com/?search=webp
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#32 2023-09-15 18:12:23
- plg
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Re: Heif
Zentalquabula wrote:
Sigh… by all means, support HEIC, but the two most important formats are AVIF and WebP.
I don't see how "AVIF" is more important than HEIC. HEIC is the file format used by default on iOS and Android. People take photos with their phones and upload them into Piwigo. HEIC is certainly more important than AVIF/WebP/JpegXL and others.
Zentalquabula wrote:
Almost no browser can render HEIC.
Piwigo won't display HEIC files in the web browser, but a JPEG file.
Zentalquabula wrote:
All relevant browsers can render AVIF and WebP.
Agree for WebP. Don't agree for AVIF. Making AVIF useless as an output (display) format for Piwigo. I don't reject it as an "input" format (to be converted as JPEG for display).
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#33 2023-09-15 23:34:06
- Zentalquabula
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Re: Heif
plg wrote:
Making AVIF useless as an output (display) format for Piwigo.
Making Piwigo useless as gallery software.
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#34 2023-09-18 10:24:07
- plg
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Re: Heif
Zentalquabula wrote:
plg wrote:
Making AVIF useless as an output (display) format for Piwigo.
Making Piwigo useless as gallery software.
What could I reply to such words?
Currently (version 13) Piwigo does not support AVIF as input or output. So you're saying Piwigo is useless. So why do we have so many users then? Maybe (just maybe) you're not 100% right ;-)
Joke appart, I simply say that if AVIF is not support by Internet Explorer (or Edge, I mean the default web browser on Microsoft Windows) then Piwigo can't use AVIF as output to serve multiple-size photos in the web browser. It seems pretty damn obvious to me :-D
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#35 2023-09-19 04:06:50
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Re: Heif
plg wrote:
Joke appart, I simply say that if AVIF is not support by Internet Explorer (or Edge, I mean the default web browser on Microsoft Windows) then Piwigo can't use AVIF as output to serve multiple-size photos in the web browser. It seems pretty damn obvious to me :-D
Microsoft has always been the dinosaur, and has hampered the development of virtually all web technologies, from CSS to JS. Eventually, they lost their dominance to Google and Firefox, and now they are just fringe.
IE is dead, and Edge will eventually support AVIF. 99% of users use Chrome (and derivatives), Firefox and Safari.
https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-e … nd-safari/
User base is 100%, and AVIF superiority is also 100%. Please implement. Fucking PLEASE!
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