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#31 2025-06-03 18:18:02

drmaemo
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Re: Piwigo AI: Artificial Intelligence is coming to Piwigo

plg wrote:

drmaemo wrote:

Thanks for the quick reply and clarification. My current understanding is that the plugin simply unlocks the AI code that will be embedded in Piwigo 16. Maybe I understand incorrectly.

The AI engine can't be in Piwigo. Technical requirements (GPU + a lot of memory) are too high to be embedded in Piwigo which has very low requirements. Piwigo AI will run on Piwigo.com servers. The Piwigo AI plugin will make the link between your Piwigo and Piwigo AI servers.

Technically, even if you activate the Piwigo AI plugin in your Piwigo, there is no AI engine that will run on your server. Not with the technology we have tested so far.

Thank you for this additional explanation. It is really helpful! :-)

DrMaemo


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#32 2025-06-04 08:45:08

gueba
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Re: Piwigo AI: Artificial Intelligence is coming to Piwigo

Will it be possible to delete the plugin completely (not only deactivate) without harm?

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#33 2025-06-04 10:13:19

plg
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Re: Piwigo AI: Artificial Intelligence is coming to Piwigo

gueba wrote:

Will it be possible to delete the plugin completely (not only deactivate) without harm?

I don't understand the question. Just deactivate the plugin. You can also uninstall/remove it, but it will come back on each Piwigo major upgrade (because it will be provided with standard releases).

Reminder: a plugin is a directory (with files full of PHP code) in the "plugins" directory. The principle is that the code of the plugin is only in its directory, separated from the core. The core does not rely on plugins. You can remove all plugins and Piwigo will still work fine.

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#34 2025-06-18 02:12:38

Don't scrape me bro
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Re: Piwigo AI: Artificial Intelligence is coming to Piwigo

Oh goody, another image host pandering to the prompt jockeys and feeding human-created artwork to the plagiarism machine without permission, credit, or compensation. Bye.

#35 2025-06-18 14:04:30

plg
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Re: Piwigo AI: Artificial Intelligence is coming to Piwigo

Don't scrape me bro wrote:

Oh goody, another image host pandering to the prompt jockeys and feeding human-created artwork to the plagiarism machine without permission, credit, or compensation. Bye.

Funny how obvious it is you didn't read the blog post. What we plan to do is the right opposite of your accusation. Bye.

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#36 2025-06-24 21:42:48

tired photographer
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plg wrote:

Funny how obvious it is you didn't read the blog post.

Hi, I was looking for open source photo manager options today and I came across piwigo, as well as the blog post, while looking for a match to the features I need as well as possible red flags like unnecessary AI integration and privacy issues.

I've read through all the comments and your replies here and on the blog post and I want to point out some reasons that are making me hesitate to try out piwigo.

You've made it clear that you have good intentions and want to keep everything privacy focused, and I believe you. But there's the saying about the road to hell, and countless examples of decent features that were introduced to software only to cause problems years later so I think the caution everyone is expressing is very reasonable.

In the last reply you criticized the comment for clearly not reading the blog post, but as a potential user, I saw a headline just touting "AI", an image showing a prompt and an AI generated image, and a description of how you've been working on "automated content generation". Very reasonable to not read further, the only reason I did is because I'm killing time on my day off and had an hour to read forum threads. This is an issue with how you presented the feature, not reading comprehension.

Similarly, with the default enabled checkbox you say it's because you're worried people will miss the feature. If that's true, then people are just as likely to miss the option to turn *off* the feature, but you'll have stats showing how few people turn it off and can then use that to justify more AI features (or similar misuse of data, maybe in a month, maybe in a year). Likewise, you say that these features are necessary because people are looking for them in a product like this. If that's true, and it's a separate plugin that requires payment, then those users will be seeing those features during payment and other steps anyway, so making it opt-in is just as logical but much more in line with privacy goals.

Finally, on the AI concept itself, I do respect what you're trying to do implementing this without sending data to third parties, it seems like a decent compromise. There was a good comment on the blog asking about several technical issues, not all of which had good answers. One of the best is hallucination rate. Putting aside all the (many many) issues with AI, I simply don't want any features that *kinda* work. If you have something that can identify cats with no false positives, by all means add a cat-recognizer plugin! But I have no need for software that can do something 80% of the time and creates problems 20% of the time, so I have to double check it 100% of the time.

I'm looking at this service both for myself and less technical family and friends, and I don't want to have to explain all the excuses and caveats from this thread when they ask about privacy, or remind them to uncheck a box every time there's an update or anything like that. So as a potential user, that's my explanation of why this is making me hesitate to use or recommend piwigo right now.

#37 2025-06-24 22:05:10

Katryne
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2016-12-03
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Re: Piwigo AI: Artificial Intelligence is coming to Piwigo

Hello !
As the AI plugin use is only on a paying basis, no risk that data from the site can be sent outside the site without the webmaster action. And by action, I mean paying.
Nevertheless, as a long time Piwigo user, I would prefer the AI plugin disabled by default, or at best, not included at all in the Piwigo pack. If the Piwigo team wants the plugin to be advertised, a message with a link on the aministration landing page could do the job., just as what is done for the latest blog entry or the pendant updates.
Katryne


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#38 2025-06-25 13:12:20

gueba
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Re: Piwigo AI: Artificial Intelligence is coming to Piwigo

@ Katryne

ACK!

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